Re: Re: Laptop suggestion
By: nelgin to All on Fri Dec 26 2025 05:03 pm

I've looked at Lenovo through work discounts and still think they're expensive for what they are. Probably well made but you are paying for
the name

I would not know. I usually source used Lenovo laptops and when they are in the second harnd market price is no longer a problem :-P


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Re: Re: Laptop suggestion
By: Nightfox to Bf2k+ on Sun Dec 28 2025 02:01 pm

You build your own laptops? Or do you mean desktop PCs?

Sorry I see that was confusing...

No i build my own desktops which is all I need for my personal use.

My company provides me with the laptops I need for my job... they are specialized Siemens 'programming devices'... for PLC / HMI programming. I use 2 of them now but probably have 5 of them around here. They are pretty nice units but $$$$$... so much that I would never buy one myself.

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Re: Laptop suggestion
By: Ogg to Bf2k+ on Mon Dec 29 2025 08:10 am

I recently bought my wife an Acer Nitro 15 - core i9; 32gb
ram; 512gb SSD. It has plenty of power for what she does
and did not break the wallet. And she likes it which is the
most important part.

What OS?

Win 11.

(I hate it)

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Re: Laptop suggestion
By: Digital Man to Jimqode on Sun Dec 28 2025 16:11:26

What do you use? Do you have recommendations?

Lenovo Chromebook

I wouldn't recommend any computer that requires you to be online to use.

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Re: Laptop suggestion
By: Mortar to Digital Man on Thu Jan 01 2026 01:26 am

Re: Laptop suggestion
By: Digital Man to Jimqode on Sun Dec 28 2025 16:11:26

What do you use? Do you have recommendations?

Lenovo Chromebook

I wouldn't recommend any computer that requires you to be online
to use.

yeah but get with the times. we are online all the time now.
nobody is really using a computer that is off the internet.
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Re: Laptop suggestion
By: Mortar to Digital Man on Thu Jan 01 2026 01:26 am

Re: Laptop suggestion
By: Digital Man to Jimqode on Sun Dec 28 2025 16:11:26

What do you use? Do you have recommendations?

Lenovo Chromebook

I wouldn't recommend any computer that requires you to be online to use.

I use my Chromebook just fine without being "online" (e.g. no Internet/WiFi). --
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Re: Laptop suggestion
By: Mortar to Digital Man on Thu Jan 01 2026 01:26 am

Re: Laptop suggestion
By: Digital Man to Jimqode on Sun Dec 28 2025 16:11:26

What do you use? Do you have recommendations?

Lenovo Chromebook

I wouldn't recommend any computer that requires you to be online
to use.

yeah but get with the times. we are online all the time now.
nobody is really using a computer that is off the internet.

Wrong again, doofus.

You make it easy to illustrate your ignorance.


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Re: Laptop suggestion
By: MRO to Mortar on Thu Jan 01 2026 03:26 am

I wouldn't recommend any computer that requires you to be online to use.

yeah but get with the times. we are online all the time now. nobody is really using a computer that is off the internet.

Personally, I'm totally concerned with what other people use; I have my own preferences for what I like to use, and I agree with him that I wouldn't want to use a computer that requires you to be online in order to use it. Even though we're basically online all the time, that shouldn't be a requirement. In the rare event that my internet service drops for some reason, I'd still like to be able to work on things on my computer.

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Re: Laptop suggestion
By: Digital Man to Mortar on Thu Jan 01 2026 04:28 am

I use my Chromebook just fine without being "online" (e.g. no Internet/WiFi).

I had the impression that the Chromebook used all cloud-based software, such as Google Docs, etc., but I haven't used a Chromebook myself. It sounds like they have a way to run the software locally too?

Nightfox

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Re: Laptop suggestion
By: Mortar to Digital Man on Thu Jan 01 2026 01:26 am

I wouldn't recommend any computer that requires you to be online to use.

Actually, if you get a good one and you set everything up right, you can do just about anything. The only thing I haven't been able to do with ChromeOS that I could do with other OSes is run virtual machines.

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Re: Laptop suggestion
By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Thu Jan 01 2026 08:52 am

Google Docs, etc., but I haven't used a Chromebook myself. It sounds like t have a way to run the software locally too?

It's just a really locked down Linux. At first, people had to find hacks and work-arounds to be able to build and run their own software in it (which worked fine), but then Google made it so there is a separate straight Linux environment available to the user without having to leave holes exposed in ChromeOS. You can also run Android apps right from the Play Store.

Prior to the separate Linux environment, I was doing various things like decoding DMR (digital radio) with an SDR (software defined radio) USB dongle and whatnot.

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Re: Laptop suggestion
By: Nightfox to Digital Man on Thu Jan 01 2026 08:52 am

Re: Laptop suggestion
By: Digital Man to Mortar on Thu Jan 01 2026 04:28 am

I use my Chromebook just fine without being "online" (e.g. no Internet/WiFi).

I had the impression that the Chromebook used all cloud-based software, such as Google Docs, etc., but I haven't used a Chromebook myself. It sounds like they have a way to run the software locally too?

Yes, of course. I have a complete Linux development environment on my Chromebook and run native Linux apps (e.g. SyncTERM, hexchat) and sometimes Chrome apps/games - that don't require Internet.

Sure, if you *want* to use Google docs, it works best with Internet (and does support off-line access/edits and has for a long time), but you don't *have* to.
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Nightfox wrote to Digital Man <=-

I had the impression that the Chromebook used all cloud-based software, such as Google Docs, etc., but I haven't used a Chromebook myself. It sounds like they have a way to run the software locally too?

The apps run offline, and you can cache your documents to allow you to
make changes, then sync when you're back online.



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phigan wrote to Nightfox <=-

It's just a really locked down Linux. At first, people had to find
hacks and work-arounds to be able to build and run their own software
in it (which worked fine), but then Google made it so there is a
separate straight Linux environment available to the user without
having to leave holes exposed in ChromeOS.

With a little hacking, you can run anything on them, too. I have my
mom's old Toshiba Chromebook (nice ultrabook, 13" 1080p screen,
Celeron/4GB/64GB, but with nice audio), opened it up and flipped a
switch, then was able to install SeaBIOS on it, which lets you install
other OSes on it.

It's EOL for ChromeOS, tried installing ChromeOS Flex on it, but the
sound won't work. Google would much rather you buy a new Chromebook...

Nice kit, though. Runs Xubuntu just fine with sound.




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Re: Laptop suggestion
By: MRO to Mortar on Thu Jan 01 2026 03:26 am

yeah but get with the times. we are online all the time now.
nobody is really using a computer that is off the internet.

First wordler detected.

Have you heard Spain suffered a nationwide blackout last year? There was no electricity at all for more than half the day in the whole country. Bonus points because we dragged France and Portugal in our downfall.

I could still do all of my accounting and play some videogames in my spare time because I store my things locally instead of using cloud crap for anything. Good thing I produce my own electricity, though.




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Re: Laptop suggestion
By: Arelor to MRO on Thu Jan 08 2026 09:00 am

First wordler detected.

Have you heard Spain suffered a nationwide blackout last year? There
was no electricity at all for more than half the day in the whole
country. Bonus points because we dragged France and Portugal
in our downfall.

I could still do all of my accounting and play some videogames
in my spare time because I store my things locally instead of using

i would literally die without internet.
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Re: Laptop suggestion
By: Arelor to MRO on Thu Jan 08 2026 09:00 am

I could still do all of my accounting and play some videogames
in my spare time because I store my things locally instead of using

i would literally die without internet.

Who's your ISP? I'll see what I can do.




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